Knife attack outside the Turkish Shop.

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Knife attack outside the Turkish Shop.

by technomist @ 2008-09-25 – 15:42:35

A copy of the security video of the incident which included knife attacks outside the Turkish Shop in Walthamstow High Street(Gazi International Supermarket) on Saturday evening has been released. Several young hoodies on bikes can be seen and a knife is used twice to stab two staff members' heads. Apparently, off camera, there were a whole load more of the gang (up to 15). There is no sound.

The link, to the Waltham Forest Guardian is here.

It goes without saying that if anyone can identify any of the people involved, the police would like to have that information.
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- metyu
- 2008-09-25 @ 15:56:55
OMG this is awful. I can't believe what some people are getting away with.

Who was it that claimed CCTV cameras are there to protect us?

Instead of spending money on cameras, maybe we should be paying for more bobbies on the street, better trained and better equipped ones.

And quite frankly, give them more powers to use their batons. A few clips around the ear from a big policeman would stop children growing up into monsters.

One of my best friends is ex-army, ex-semi professional fighter, 6'3" and one of the most well-meaning people I've ever met. The police wouldn't let him join because he's dyslexic and failed a multiple choice exam!

I'm so fed up of people being too scared to stand up for themselves - be it parents, police or pedestrians.
- - technomist
  - 2008-09-25 @ 16:12:18
  It's awful. When people talk about knives, this is the kind of thing it can lead to.
  - - metyu
    - 2008-09-25 @ 16:29:08
    Incoherent rants, you mean?
    - - technomist
      - 2008-09-25 @ 17:52:16
      Rant? Moi? WHADDAYAMEAN?
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- Dan (Visitor)
- 2008-09-25 @ 16:31:19
From the video, the staff of the supermarket don't seem entirely blameless. It looks like they attack one of the youths first, pushing him off his bike.

Still, the response to that agression by the gang though is scary, particularly the childish way the one with the knife runs up and attacks from behind.

I really hope this lot get caught.
- - technomist
  - 2008-09-25 @ 17:02:17
  Its a pity that they don't have sound, as knowing what was being said would make it easier to be able to take a view. I think that not knowing what had been going on before and also not being able to see the rest of the gang might make a difference. I also wonder if there might not be a history here.
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- - metyu
  - 2008-09-25 @ 17:07:02
  Walking through Enfield once, I was approached by a youth taunting me and literally asking for a fight.
  
  Aforementioned friend, who grew up in Walthamstow, and who knows I have a habit of mouthing off, grabbed my arm, told me not to say a word, not to look at him and to walk away very quickly.
  
  "WTF?! You're massive and there's one of him!" I said. He replied, there's ten of them around the corner waiting for you to do something stupid. Off we sped, and sure enough a gang emerged from around the corner.
  
  Had I not had my street-wise companion with me, I would have suffered the same fate as those in the video. Anyone inexperienced with this situation, particularly if loved ones are being threatened, is likely to see red and lash out. That is exactly what the gang wants.
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- faffajane ^Pro
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- 2008-09-25 @ 17:15:03
Our laws really need a overhauling to stop this sort of thing from happening. Unfortunately we have a bunch of namby pambies inthe government who are more concerned about not upsetting a few PC individuals than dealing with the real issues!
- - technomist
  - 2008-09-25 @ 17:33:01
  I think we have plenty of laws. The current government suffers from lexarrhea. The laws need enforcing in my view.
  - - faffajane ^Pro
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    - 2008-09-25 @ 17:35:47
    True
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- Archaic-Insanity
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- 2008-09-25 @ 21:13:05
I wonder what gives kids the need to do this sort of thing...
- - technomist
  - 2008-09-25 @ 23:07:08
  Humans are complex herd animals as much as we are individuals with personalities, survival instincts and powerful needs for 'recognition' wherever we can find that.
  
  I suspect there could be an influential sociopathic or psychopathic element among them, but I'd also suspect that where the involvement of many could be concerned, fear is involved - fear of not being accepted by a group; fear of their behaviour among the group being seen as non-conforming to the ethos being set by bullies among them. Some may not be able imagine themselves outside the group, while others can imagine it only too well.
  
  Without being able to ask them its difficult to know. We can project all sorts of motivations, some of them 'rational', some irrational. Being teenagers, they may well not know themselves what their own motivations are or be able to articulate them - they do not necessarily have fully formed personalities or senses of themselves. I'd be surprised if they did, in fact.
  
  Throw in some adrenalin, maybe a few drugs, a grievance or two (real or imagined) and some group politics and we have a recipe for mayhem in the wrong circumstances.
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- skip2468
- 2008-09-26 @ 11:02:20
Shocking!

Not a case of what our world is coming to but rather what has it finally come to.

.....and our lawmakers, the politicians are mainly to blame. Overpaid and under achieved.
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- Reclaim the streets (Visitor)
- 2009-03-20 @ 10:00:18
This scum need stamping on, quite literally. Once they know people (the old bill?) will go in hard on them, they'll start thinking twice. They know they will get away with anything at the moment.

Police always seem to be hands-on with, say, football crowds and protests, but this vermin, laughing in our faces, get little more than ASBOs and verbal warnings. A big stick around the thick head now and again would work wonders.
- - technomist
  - 2009-03-21 @ 14:42:15
  I am not aware that there are that many football crowds or protests in Walthamstow.
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